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We're heading down this exciting path of Commercial
Crew.

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We have the opportunity as the commercial
crew cadre to go to both Boeing and SpaceX

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and check out what they're doing and how they're
coming along with their spacecraft.

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I think what's really exciting is seeing the
new technologies that they're incorporating

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into their spacecraft.

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These are things that are much different from
both space shuttle and Soyuz, because they're

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taking advantage of the technology over the
last two decades or so.

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Some of the ideas are brand-new, it makes
us think out of the box from how we've done

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spacecraft and how we've flown spacecraft
before in the future.

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This will be the first time in a generation
that we are going to launch a new spacecraft.

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I think what goes hand-in-hand with this new
program is putting the right people on the

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first couple of missions to really shake out
the spacecraft and make sure that they'll

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be ready to fly for the next generation of
folks who are going to be flying these for

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quite some time.

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So after I think the first couple missions
of each spacecraft, I don't think we're going

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to have to have as test pilots being the prime
operator of either of the commercial crew

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vehicles.

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I think the idea is to make sure all of the
bugs are worked out as much as possible and

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be able to turn those spacecraft over to anybody
in the astronaut office to be able to fly.

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I think the test will be when we put those
spacecraft on the launch pad and are ready